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Which masternodes voted and what exactly voted on various proposals.

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Jaap Terlouw, Founder of the B2X project
"Commission and transaction speed within the Bitcoin network has reached extraordinary values. It is almost impossible to use it as a means of payment. Our team will carry out the Bitcoin hard fork, which was planned for mid-November. At the same time, trading of its futures has been carried out on some exchanges for a long time. HitBTC is among them. I promise that all BTC holders will receive not only B2X in the ratio of 1 to 1, but also a proportional number of Satoshi Nakamoto`s Bitcoins as a reward for their commitment to progress."
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The confiscation of the old wallets just begun in Bitcoin, and the first victim is the greedy Satoshi !

Lets destroy all the social conventions of the old greedy generations, also here in Dash.
 
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demo said:
Aggregated historical data from the beginning of the governance system (using dashninja API)

https://demodun.github.io/mnowatch/the_ninja_results_12-22-2017.html

Huge table, USE FIREFOX BROWSER FOR A BETTER VIEW
Next version will support pagination.
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You may watch many stories there. For example have a look at the Below MNO. He voted just two proposals.
A YES to Business_integration_into_retail_sector and a NO to REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH
He was tired of voting, and he was afraid that the system will flood with proposals, thats why he didnt want to reduce the proposal fee!!! :p:p:p

Masternode IP
YES
NO
ABSTAIN
VOTES HASH
34.198.167.232
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.206.0.63
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.203.56.104
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.198.118.63
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.201.81.64
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.194.227.5
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.199.17.142
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.205.184.148
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
52.2.185.189
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.205.170.53
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
52.5.230.144
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.199.4.154
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.197.119.162
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
52.71.229.125
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.201.177.56
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
52.3.106.42
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.203.114.82
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
52.4.25.138
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.203.176.85
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.203.179.201
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
52.5.114.26
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
52.70.5.67
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.199.98.113
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.207.18.134
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.199.161.156
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
52.55.60.143
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
34.201.79.168
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
54.85.239.131
Business_integration_into_retail_sector
REDUCE_PROPOSAL_FEES_TO_1_DASH

844702179756005708251987367384576424387371086440
 
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made some fixes in order to include the historical votes of the masternodes that are offline.

put into the same directory:
the script
the javascript code.

and run the script.

It will produce the report into a file named the_results.html
 
https://demodun.github.io/mnowatch/the_results_25-12-2017.html
https://demodun.github.io/mnowatch/the_results-25-12-2017-filterColumns.html
Warning. The above files are browser heavy. Press the "wait javascript" in case it appears, and be patient.

There are interesting statistics there.
For example, search "Adaptive-Proposal-Fees" of @GrandMasterDash and you will be informed that 932 masternodes voted on it.
354 masternodes who voted this proposal, they are offline now! (207yes + 119 no + 28 abs)=354 left!
The masternodes who voted this proposal and are still online are 578.

What happened to these masternodes? Why almost half of those who voted the proposal left the network? Did they really left the network or they just changed their Hash index? And why http://dashninja.pl and @elbereth does not keep in statistics the IPs of those who left?
 
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demo said:
Unfortunately github pages allows only javascript calls, you cannot run a dashd in github pages! And javascript calls means that all the heavy process needed to create this, should be performed in the client side!

So I prefer to get the info from my own dash node. Do you know any (free) host that allows me to run dashd there (or something similar to dashd) ?
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demo said:
https://demodun.github.io/mnowatch/the_results_25-12-2017.html
https://demodun.github.io/mnowatch/the_results-25-12-2017-filterColumns.html
Warning. The above files are browser heavy. Press the "wait javascript" in case it appears, and be patient.

There are interesting statistics there.
For example, search "Adaptive-Proposal-Fees" of @GrandMasterDash and you will be informed that 932 masternodes voted on it.
354 masternodes who voted this proposal, they are offline now! (207yes + 119 no + 28 abs)=354 left!
The masternodes who voted this proposal and are still online are 578.

What happened to these masternodes? Why almost half of those who voted the proposal left the network? Did they really left the network or they just changed their Hash index? And why http://dashninja.pl and @elbereth does not keep in statistics the IPs of those who left?
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The way in which masternodes are designed, there doesn't seem to be any reasoning or code behind making nodes universally identifiable.

There are tons of reasons why IP addresses could change and output hashes could change.

Everything from a dynamic IP address to a change in hosting provider, to moving it from one hosting provider to another.

Then hash index would change every time it's restarted from the wallet I believe. So asking why these aren't saved doesn't really do a whole lot because it wouldn't matter since that data wouldn't be useful.


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jeffh said:
The way in which masternodes are designed, there doesn't seem to be any reasoning or code behind making nodes universally identifiable.

There are tons of reasons why IP addresses could change and output hashes could change.

Everything from a dynamic IP address to a change in hosting provider, to moving it from one hosting provider to another.

Then hash index would change every time it's restarted from the wallet I believe. So asking why these aren't saved doesn't really do a whole lot because it wouldn't matter since that data wouldn't be useful.
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They could be identified by the way they vote.
This is why I put the fifth collumn in the table, the vote hash.
 
demo said:
They could be identified by the way they vote.
This is why I put the fifth collumn in the table, the vote hash.
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I'm pretty sure vote hash changes every single time they vote.


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jeffh said:
I'm pretty sure vote hash changes every single time they vote.


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Yes of course it changes, but if you sort the table by votehash, you could see what masternodes have identical votehash.
The more the votes, the more the possibility these masternodes to be operated by the same person.
Thus the person and the number of masternodes he operates, is identified.
 
demo said:
Yes of course it changes, but if you sort the table by votehash, you could see what masternodes have identical votehash.
The more the votes, the more the possibility these masternodes to be operated by the same person.
Thus the person and the number of masternodes he operates, is identified.
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Ahh good catch. I'm going to have to play with this some more.
 
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Furthermore, the vote hash is neither the only nor the best mathematical function that can be used.
Read here.
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Yah I'm well aware that this can be done. Just not entirely convinced of the benefits other than because you can.

I disagree with the idea of confiscating funds from people who you disagree with, or who someone decides isn't benefitting the network.


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jeffh said:
I disagree with the idea of confiscating funds from people who you disagree with, or who someone decides isn't benefitting the network.
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I also disagree with the idea of confiscating funds from people who you disagree with, or who someone decides isn't benefitting the network.

Unless this someone who decides is the majority of the individuals that consist the network. And this majority shouldnt decide like the athenian majority did. The majority should vote the numbers, and should decide by using the mean average.
 
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And the benefits are obvious.
I want to cause to the cryptocurrencies exactly what they did to the fiat money which in turn did the same thing to the gold standard.
I am here in order to threat the old guard of money and to provide justice to the new generations.
I am not a social warrior. I am a new generation warrior.
YOLO is #13!
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I can all but guarantee that there are enough MNOs that don't want this - that you'll see more and more ways of obfuscation before you can prove who owns what.

Even Dash Masternode Tool has built in vote obfuscation for those with multiple nodes.

Any effort you put into this will be rendered moot by a software update that hides it better. I don't think anything near the majority agrees with you here.


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jeffh said:
I can all but guarantee that there are enough MNOs that don't want this - that you'll see more and more ways of obfuscation before you can prove who owns what.

Even Dash Masternode Tool has built in vote obfuscation for those with multiple nodes.

Any effort you put into this will be rendered moot by a software update that hides it better. I don't think anything near the majority agrees with you here.


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Yes I know that the majority of MNOs is brainwashed.
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The fact that the 4663 MNOs do not confiscate the richest wallet, although each one of them has $30547 profit from doing it, proves that the DASH-money is a yet another social convention. The MNOs are brainwashed in order to obey to this specific social convention, and not to another alternative one.
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Furthermore, confiscating money from the brain washed MNOs will not obviously occur by decision of the MNOs community, but by decision of the wider Dash community, through a hard fork.

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Who wants to prepare the hard fork for this? It is not that hard to implement a wallet confiscation, it just requires the majority of the the online (masternode, miners, other) nodes to reject the original blockchain and to upload an alternative hard_forked blockchain which does not contain the richest wallet in it. You can find the latest original blockchain here and you can experiment in order to find out how to confiscate money from wallets. Who wants to propose a confiscation of the richest wallet into the budget system? You should propose this just one day before the monthly budget finalization (in order for the richest wallet not to be able to react).
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In bitcoin, they already did this.

demo said:
The confiscation of the old wallets just begun in Bitcoin, and the first victim is the greedy Satoshi !
Lets destroy all the social conventions of the old greedy generations, also here in Dash.
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