v0.10.17.x Testing

oblox · Dec 4, 2014

crowning said:
Does any of your wallets already started denominating?

Mine cycles through a kinda Groundhog-Day loop:

Code:

Submiting Darksend for 100.000000 DRK DoAutomaticDenominating -- attempt 2 connection to masternode 108.61.202.75:19999 trying connection 108.61.202.75:19999 lastseen=15251.3days connected 108.61.202.75:19999 ... DoAutomaticDenominating --- connected, sending dsa for 30 - denom 30 socket closed disconnecting node 108.61.202.75:19999 AcceptToMemoryPool (tx): 188.226.161.128:19999 /Satoshi:0.10.17.18/ : accepted 6d33d4c949f2ad99c655da5b0b55187a1ed7bbcf992be4896665abb6a102bf76 (poolsz 4) dsq - message doesn't match current masternode - 108.61.202.75:19999 != 188.226.161.128:19999

Rinse and repeat....

Sometimes there's the odd "dssu - message doesn't match current darksend session 518762 0" here or there, that's it.

No denomination so far...

I sent my coins back to the faucet and generated a new wallet along with deleting the peers.dat. I so far have received one PTY (breaking into powers of 2s) and one darksend denominate.

crowning · Dec 4, 2014

oblox said:
I so far have received one PTY (breaking into powers of 2s)

Got that one as well.

oblox said:
and one darksend denominate.

That's a bit missing over here....

TanteStefana · Dec 4, 2014

Ok, I chose a denomination of 47.8 and tried to send 45 of it to another address. It failed saying unable to locate enough denominated funds (are we doing the change thing? Or was that abandoned for now?)

So I sent it letting the wallet decide which to use, and it's charging me 0.0990001 to do it, kinda hefty, no? Total charge ended up being 0.1000001

So, can you figure out my original address? TX 29bb7c91c6017aec8f86b765e4760ebda7fbb0a2b08f05d396a1812cf53d94a8

crowning · Dec 4, 2014

crowning said:
Got that one as well.
That's a bit missing over here....

Finally started mixing....needed only on hour or so

moli · Dec 4, 2014

TanteStefana said:
Ok, I chose a denomination of 47.8 and tried to send 45 of it to another address. It failed saying unable to locate enough denominated funds (are we doing the change thing? Or was that abandoned for now?)

So I sent it letting the wallet decide which to use, and it's charging me 0.0990001 to do it, kinda hefty, no? Total charge ended up being 0.1000001

So, can you figure out my original address? TX 29bb7c91c6017aec8f86b765e4760ebda7fbb0a2b08f05d396a1812cf53d94a8

Is it
mspyEVzLp4XbfngHYVa1DN92boUK1Zbhsh ?

or:
mp9HFLtvc19aE3LoU1wEDnZtZTKTE4Li1e ?

thelonecrouton · Dec 4, 2014

TanteStefana said:
Ok, I chose a denomination of 47.8 and tried to send 45 of it to another address. It failed saying unable to locate enough denominated funds (are we doing the change thing? Or was that abandoned for now?)

So I sent it letting the wallet decide which to use, and it's charging me 0.0990001 to do it, kinda hefty, no? Total charge ended up being 0.1000001

So, can you figure out my original address? TX 29bb7c91c6017aec8f86b765e4760ebda7fbb0a2b08f05d396a1812cf53d94a8

Yeah it's been telling me 'not enough DS funds' a lot, when I clearly have plenty.

yidakee · Dec 4, 2014

thelonecrouton said:
Yeah it's been telling me 'not enough DS funds' a lot, when I clearly have plenty.

That happened to me 2 versions ago. I updated the QT but the wallet was from a previous version. Try a brand new wallet.

moli · Dec 4, 2014

thelonecrouton said:
Yeah it's been telling me 'not enough DS funds' a lot, when I clearly have plenty.

When it says that, it wants you to figure out the fee, from my experience.

eduffield · Dec 4, 2014

moli · Dec 4, 2014

eduffield said:
Everything is looking REALLY good, I think we're ready to launch. I'm just waiting to make sure mixing shuts down when it's done.

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Anon Transaction:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/77d2c0b36ae91b6540342b3f8d84045534d03da9278b09bb04f9470f33a1c68b

8 rounds:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/e15791d16890d72e64d9b5eb72a37ff2e1fc406b51971d658c872e175bc4f55c
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/ffc39234c184874a2dadcb6881bff931e8094690ce214322e60288492d99b855
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/447533c7682af5e14608e2883229e7cc88179ca30c2cdb252ee3b473fc21add9
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/506fc6bf4ab59e8b429247cabee8f1d88681ab02201abe5e584c57a73110f04b
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/d878b8203d76e4120265a85255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/96f777afbe6babba95d5a4fbaee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/a1e45fdb69d4b4c991cb4dab4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/f131e620b0899cc0524c8c20b44e5104cd75f39d1811425d666d8603900424b5

Source Transaction:

http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/a713df7be298ec59470b5ae2ff0e56c57a7d21c7ff6e1e821a3258153fd41663

It seems ScriptSig numbes (on the right under Inputs) on the explorer give away hints/links for tracing?

AjM · Dec 4, 2014

v.17.18
Fresh wallet, got 1K tDRK from faucet.
Started anon mixing with 500 tDRK / 2 rounds, about 2 hours and its done,
worked fine, zero collateral fees or anything similar, but completion bar tip
shows 1.93 / 2 rounds and 100%.
Win 7 x64.

eduffield · Dec 4, 2014

moli said:
It seems ScriptSig numbes (on the right under Inputs) on the explorer give away hints/links for tracing?

oblox · Dec 4, 2014

eduffield said:
No, check this out. I'll try to find where the source of that transaction came from. This is why Darksend is so powerful, this anon-transaction literally comes from all of these transactions below. There is no 1-to-1 relationship with the original money after the sessions happen. In crypto-note/zero knowledege the 1-to-1 relationship is still in the blockchain, it's just hidden with math (that could be broken later). With Darksend, you literally wipe out the relationship all-together (The ONLY way to prove who sent what is with the owners wallet):

Anon Transaction:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/77d2c0b36ae91b6540342b3f8d84045534d03da9278b09bb04f9470f33a1c68b
(source must be e15791d16890d72e64d9b5eb72a37ff2e1fc406b51971d658c872e175bc4f55c)

I used 8 rounds:

Round 8:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/e15791d16890d72e64d9b5eb72a37ff2e1fc406b51971d658c872e175bc4f55c
-Possibly funding sources:
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...ac303491f97efb90c718d103031fb4677c8ba6035#o29
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...8d91ec4b37c8890f189ebabc49596ce4597331cc2#o11
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...881bff931e8094690ce214322e60288492d99b855#o40

All 3 of those sources are where the money actually comes from. So to find it's source, you need to follow all three and find their sources:

Round 7:
Possible Funding Sources:
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...831ee85aa2feeb87915c30ab7c6d0f4d55b544a5e#o11
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...8d91ec4b37c8890f189ebabc49596ce4597331cc2#o45
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...239a2cb86443a5cdaae6c6558f748b9eb4c5679a51#o8
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...83229e7cc88179ca30c2cdb252ee3b473fc21add9#o64
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...abee8f1d88681ab02201abe5e584c57a73110f04b#o18
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8#o30
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...25f97f24c0de5922b522b17ea4903ba76a5b692a83#o5
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...d9e9464a3630665797555df6c59ff847c89fab838#o11
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5f617d22933c1bdb6be6897246e4722ac24efba4c#o48
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...9831ee85aa2feeb87915c30ab7c6d0f4d55b544a5e#o6

Each time you see powers of two, you've found source money:

Round 6:
Possible Funding Sources:
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5d65a4b50f1b917c541729b8165b31a5b819c2d680#o0
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...4aa23d45d1dedea62be2c6f27b6500d496e75044af#o1
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...d9e9464a3630665797555df6c59ff847c89fab838#o10
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5f617d22933c1bdb6be6897246e4722ac24efba4c#o27
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...9831ee85aa2feeb87915c30ab7c6d0f4d55b544a5e#o4
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...e785a838ad0edf59947ac27aa7a7556dbb66c5a1bb#o0
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...abee8f1d88681ab02201abe5e584c57a73110f04b#o65
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...b4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e#o34
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8#o11
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...baee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d#o19
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...b4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e#o16
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8#o19
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...baee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d#o58
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...ab4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e#o2
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...0b44e5104cd75f39d1811425d666d8603900424b5#o80
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...baee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d#o48
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...f9ac17298fb236ed0ec308ea28477ecc0b8253842#o43
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5451865a2348bf077015c66c7362771334d42d6f8#o34
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...32a69ca97a22838052c4c7070656bb66b6d120c7b#o36
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...b1a4d87f2418852818d179f5579f0afd7895036a2#o56
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...51da81f7ed7ae53a43e59b284287407c3750f0a1b9#o1
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5afb07a34e1c5b4779e75e53d1563b8c8096ad4325#o0
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...c8828677c86a904ac00e5d287a825071fd65b5de37#o0
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5b0b55187a1ed7bbcf992be4896665abb6a102bf76#o1
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...bb1a4d87f2418852818d179f5579f0afd7895036a2#o9
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...dd9e9464a3630665797555df6c59ff847c89fab838#o6
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5451865a2348bf077015c66c7362771334d42d6f8#o37
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...77cea4bb455ec8d938d392f997b37b0be1feee43b#o47

It gets exponentially larger as you go backwards, I would keep going but that already took 30 minutes to do 3 rounds.

Source Transaction:

http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/a713df7be298ec59470b5ae2ff0e56c57a7d21c7ff6e1e821a3258153fd41663

Is there any reason why 8 rounds isn't the min or on by default? Secondly, with the tx fee for tx's that are too large, what happens when it breaks up denominations to pay what usually is a small .01x-.02x amount when the lowest denomination is .10? Is anonymity lost in the process?

oblox · Dec 4, 2014

My wallet is also saying it's 94% complete but looking at coin control, there are literally coins still in round 1 with most being round 5 or less. Fresh wallet, no previous denominations.

Full coin control:

Two 1k blocks from the faucet, 8 rounds, 1350 target.

Assuming it stops at 100%, there is a very real possibility that the majority are only 5 round inputs or less.

EDIT: Also, last darksend denomination is stuck at 0 confirms for 36 minutes. I know I can zapwallettxes but why are they getting stuck to begin with.

moli · Dec 4, 2014

eduffield said:
No, check this out. I'll try to find where the source of that transaction came from. This is why Darksend is so powerful, this anon-transaction literally comes from all of these transactions below. There is no 1-to-1 relationship with the original money after the sessions happen. In crypto-note/zero knowledege the 1-to-1 relationship is still in the blockchain, it's just hidden with math (that could be broken later). With Darksend, you literally wipe out the relationship all-together (The ONLY way to prove who sent what is with the owners wallet):

Anon Transaction:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/77d2c0b36ae91b6540342b3f8d84045534d03da9278b09bb04f9470f33a1c68b
(source must be e15791d16890d72e64d9b5eb72a37ff2e1fc406b51971d658c872e175bc4f55c)

I used 8 rounds:

Round 8:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/e15791d16890d72e64d9b5eb72a37ff2e1fc406b51971d658c872e175bc4f55c
-Possibly funding sources:
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...ac303491f97efb90c718d103031fb4677c8ba6035#o29
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...8d91ec4b37c8890f189ebabc49596ce4597331cc2#o11
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...881bff931e8094690ce214322e60288492d99b855#o40

All 3 of those sources are where the money actually comes from. So to find it's source, you need to follow all three and find their sources:

Round 7:
Possible Funding Sources:
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...831ee85aa2feeb87915c30ab7c6d0f4d55b544a5e#o11
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...8d91ec4b37c8890f189ebabc49596ce4597331cc2#o45
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...239a2cb86443a5cdaae6c6558f748b9eb4c5679a51#o8
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...83229e7cc88179ca30c2cdb252ee3b473fc21add9#o64
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...abee8f1d88681ab02201abe5e584c57a73110f04b#o18
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8#o30
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...25f97f24c0de5922b522b17ea4903ba76a5b692a83#o5
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...d9e9464a3630665797555df6c59ff847c89fab838#o11
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5f617d22933c1bdb6be6897246e4722ac24efba4c#o48
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...9831ee85aa2feeb87915c30ab7c6d0f4d55b544a5e#o6

Each time you see powers of two, you've found source money:

Round 6:
Possible Funding Sources:
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5d65a4b50f1b917c541729b8165b31a5b819c2d680#o0
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...4aa23d45d1dedea62be2c6f27b6500d496e75044af#o1
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...d9e9464a3630665797555df6c59ff847c89fab838#o10
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5f617d22933c1bdb6be6897246e4722ac24efba4c#o27
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...9831ee85aa2feeb87915c30ab7c6d0f4d55b544a5e#o4
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...e785a838ad0edf59947ac27aa7a7556dbb66c5a1bb#o0
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...abee8f1d88681ab02201abe5e584c57a73110f04b#o65
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...b4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e#o34
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8#o11
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...baee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d#o19
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...b4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e#o16
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...255de19203a29885f48e9ea4c78b9c96132cadbd8#o19
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...baee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d#o58
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...ab4568f2573bbd0a6c84b4934ecda53ee4dda2015e#o2
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...0b44e5104cd75f39d1811425d666d8603900424b5#o80
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...baee38fe01c03cff000cf66c697addc3ef0122b5d#o48
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...f9ac17298fb236ed0ec308ea28477ecc0b8253842#o43
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5451865a2348bf077015c66c7362771334d42d6f8#o34
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...32a69ca97a22838052c4c7070656bb66b6d120c7b#o36
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...b1a4d87f2418852818d179f5579f0afd7895036a2#o56
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...51da81f7ed7ae53a43e59b284287407c3750f0a1b9#o1
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5afb07a34e1c5b4779e75e53d1563b8c8096ad4325#o0
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...c8828677c86a904ac00e5d287a825071fd65b5de37#o0
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5b0b55187a1ed7bbcf992be4896665abb6a102bf76#o1
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...bb1a4d87f2418852818d179f5579f0afd7895036a2#o9
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...dd9e9464a3630665797555df6c59ff847c89fab838#o6
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...5451865a2348bf077015c66c7362771334d42d6f8#o37
- http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...77cea4bb455ec8d938d392f997b37b0be1feee43b#o47

It gets exponentially larger as you go backwards, I would keep going but that already took 30 minutes to do 3 rounds.

Source Transaction:

http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/a713df7be298ec59470b5ae2ff0e56c57a7d21c7ff6e1e821a3258153fd41663

Thanks, Evan, will read this more later, I'm busy with work atm.

qwizzie · Dec 4, 2014

i have a very difficult time getting connected with my windows wallets, anyone else experiencing this ? Can someone provide me with
some addnodes ? ( i deleted the peer.dat already several times .. all my wallets just seems to have problems getting to even 1 connection)

edit : my wallets seem to stop syncing after 74426, i will delete blockchains and try again
edit : same problem, difficulty connecting
edit : okay starting to get connected with some wallets to a few connections now

thelonecrouton · Dec 4, 2014

oblox said:
Assuming it stops at 100%, there is a very real possibility that the majority are only 5 round inputs or less.

The progress bar is definitely suffering from premature darksendification. Wallet just ignores it and keeps on pumpin' though.

oblox · Dec 4, 2014

thelonecrouton said:
The progress bar is definitely suffering from premature darksendification. Wallet just ignores it and keeps on pumpin' though.

Then it should be removed to not confuse the average user. Still need to know why many are getting tx's that never confirm without zapping, whether the overages in rounds has been fixed, why 8 rounds isn't the min (and default), what happens on breaking denominations up for large tx transfers in terms of anonymity and the dead change issue, combining anon coins with non-anon coins and while this is still possible.

eduffield · Dec 4, 2014

oblox said:
My wallet is also saying it's 94% complete but looking at coin control, there are literally coins still in round 1 with most being round 5 or less.

EDIT: Also, last darksend denomination is stuck at 0 confirms for 36 minutes. I know I can zapwallettxes but why are they getting stuck to begin with.

Currently, my pool is the only one mining darksend transactions. Until all of the miners update, it'll be slower (should be really fast on mainnet though).

http://ec2-54-197-169-85.compute-1.amazonaws.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

oblox · Dec 4, 2014

eduffield said:
Currently, my pool is the only one mining darksend transactions. Until all of the miners update, it'll be slower (should be really fast on mainnet though).

http://ec2-54-197-169-85.compute-1.amazonaws.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

Makes sense, thanks for answering. Any chance you can address the remaining questions in the post above yours?

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