v0.10.17.x Testing

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oblox said:
Moli was able to follow an 8 round DS back to her starting point looking at the power of 2s in the block explorer:

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[14:59] <moli> ok i start with this screen:  http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/460a41e4e3b3b873aea919dc49691e8d335a06ba4cab897ce3c0afea9d0f4246
[14:59] <xolbo> Yep
[15:01] <moli> if you click on the first tx, amount 10
[15:02] <xolbo> go on
[15:02] <moli> it takes you to this screen:  http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/6f1376b52a249d54ad5fbe375cad996189077eb8fea335413855b08342b9946c#o39
[15:02] <moli> those numbers 2, 4, 64, 128 aren't it
[15:02] <moli> but indexes 7-10
[15:02] <moli> click on any of those indexes
[15:03] <xolbo> Alright
[15:03] <moli> index 7:  http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/36c659cb61fe58f19766210d0a66aee0ff3bc2e0d41ad07c61b978f59bd8dc95#o18
[15:03] <moli> and then you see amounts 8, 16, 32
[15:03] <moli> those are the keys
[15:04] <moli> my origin:  http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/c2fbb9db3251a3cf825d8b5a2e32eba39d7dd6d9aa07a157e8ec6ede6b55a474#o8

They are the standouts in the explorer vs just having .1, 1, and 10s. So instead of going down a goose egg hunt of similar denominations, you disregard anything that isn't a power of 2. Narrows the pool severely.

EDIT: Is there a way we can do without the powers of 2 to keep the inputs denominations that will actually continue to be used throughout due to everyone darksending .1, 1, and 10s?
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i think we need to discuss this a bit more or get a reply from Evan on this matter, does the use of the power of 2 form a vulnerability in that the starting point can be traced back more easily on Mainnet ? i do realise there is a difference between Testnet (few testers) and Mainnet (a lot of users) but still .....
 
qwizzie said:
i think we need to discuss this a bit more or get a reply from Evan on this matter, does the use of the power of 2 form a vulnerability in that the starting point can be traced back more easily on Mainnet ? i do realise there is a difference between Testnet (few testers) and Mainnet (a lot of users) but still .....
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This input? It only went through 1 round:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/460a41e4e3b3b873aea919dc49691e8d335a06ba4cab897ce3c0afea9d0f4246

1.) Click the first 10
2.) Click index 7

should be here now:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...d0a66aee0ff3bc2e0d41ad07c61b978f59bd8dc95#o18

To which he says this is the source? Isn't that 1 round, not 8?
 
eduffield said:
This input? It only went through 1 round:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/460a41e4e3b3b873aea919dc49691e8d335a06ba4cab897ce3c0afea9d0f4246

1.) Click the first 10
2.) Click index 7

should be here now:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...d0a66aee0ff3bc2e0d41ad07c61b978f59bd8dc95#o18

To which he says this is the source? Isn't that 1 round, not 8?
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Evan, that was my discussion with oblox in IRC. I had about 322 tDRK anonymized with 8 and 9 rounds as you can see from my previous post:
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/instantx-testing-v10-17.3083/page-30#post-32063

Then I made two transactions and traced them to see if I could. Do you think maybe the amounts with 9 rounds became just 1 round? Why did I get 9 rounds on some denoms when my setting was 8 rounds?

Edit: The tx was done with v.10.17.12. I haven't tested the newest version yet.
 
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eduffield said:
This input? It only went through 1 round:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/460a41e4e3b3b873aea919dc49691e8d335a06ba4cab897ce3c0afea9d0f4246

1.) Click the first 10
2.) Click index 7

should be here now:
http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx...d0a66aee0ff3bc2e0d41ad07c61b978f59bd8dc95#o18

To which he says this is the source? Isn't that 1 round, not 8?
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hmm if its indeed only the first round that got traced back then that pretty much explains it .. its just that Oblox mentioned
''Moli was able to follow an 8 round DS back to her starting point looking at the power of 2s in the block explorer''
so that got me worried a bit...

edit : didnt see Moli's post .. i will let you two sort it out :)
 
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Wow, this version really does it quick. Almost done 2000/4 - but lots of 5 rounders in there.
 
yidakee said:
Wow, this version really does it quick. Almost done 2000/4 - but lots of 5 rounders in there.
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damn, i was just about to write a post that the darksend rounds look fixed now :)

6x 1000 wallets set for 950 / 4 rounds, 2 of those wallets finished with 100% (with all 4 rounds) or were about to finish (1 round to go to make it round 4) at which point i changed my mind about the Darksend amount / rounds, stopped the mixing and adjusted the Darksend amount / rounds to 990 / 8 rounds of all 6 wallets.

So far the rounds are not exceeding the set 8 rounds, there is however some mismatch between set amount and the achieved Darksend Balance ... for example this wallet which finished all its input amounts with 8 rounds, i was exspecting my Darksend Balance to be a bit more higher i guess...
I will check the other wallets for the achieved Darksend Balance tomorrow as they are still mixing right now.

Edit : another wallet finished with all input amounts on 8 rounds, see difference between Darksend Balance and Darksend Amount of both wallets :

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qwizzie said:
damn, i was just about to write a post that the darksend rounds look fixed now :)

6x 1000 wallets set for 950 / 4 rounds, 2 of those wallets finished with 100% (with all 4 rounds) or were about to finish (1 round to go to make it round 4) at which point i changed my mind about the Darksend amount / rounds, stopped the mixing and adjusted the Darksend amount / rounds to 990 / 8 rounds of all 6 wallets.

So far the rounds are not exceeding the set 8 rounds, there is however some mismatch between set amount and the achieved Darksend Balance ... for example this wallet which finished all its input amounts with 8 rounds, i was exspecting my Darksend Balance to be a bit more higher i guess...
I will check the other wallets for the achieved Darksend Balance tomorrow as they are still mixing right now.

Edit : another wallet finished with all input amounts on 8 rounds, see difference between Darksend Balance and Darksend Amount of both wallets :

huL7ldG.jpg


hikwkHk.jpg
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Yep~ Same thing happens here.
All my 2 Qt-client denominate smooth and quick~
 
eduffield: I have a request: Would you let us have a choice to anonymize for more than 8 rounds, up to 20 rounds? Even if users have to pay for some fees for more than 8 rounds, I think it's worth it. What say you?
 
moli said:
eduffield: I have a request: Would you let us have a choice to anonymize for more than 8 rounds, up to 20 rounds? Even if users have to pay for some fees for more than 8 rounds, I think it's worth it. What say you?
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Change to periods up to x number, each period represents 8 rounds. Defaults to 1 which means everyone automatically when they start DS goes 8 rounds.
 
oblox said:
Change to periods up to x number, each period represents 8 rounds. Defaults to 1 which means everyone automatically when they start DS goes 8 rounds.
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Sounds good. But there're people who don't want to use Darksend, not sure if it's a good idea to have DS enabled automatically.

Edit: I mean not sure if it's a good idea to make people go thru 8 rounds automatically.
 
This windows wallet version is amazing and lightning fast! I got 1844.20000082 tDRK anonymized within about 65 minutes. All amounts went thru 8 or 9 rounds, even the smallest amounts. And it seems less bloated because the 100DRK denomination is back!

Edit: Just got another 110 tDRK anonymized and added to the stash.. and another 19.77499907 DRK is unconfirmed. What a beast.
 
might not be relevant to this version, but I've been unable to get anonymize working when running headless. would be glad to work with someone and document procedures to do this from the command line, not all of us run a gui
 
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