Reduction in proposal fee to 1 Dash (Pre-Proposal)

Should the proposal fee be changed to 1 Dash?

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Naruto said:
Agree with the proposal. But I just want to know is it possible to set The proposal fees to a percentage to the fund that are going to receive? E.g. If a proposal demands for 300 DASH and the fees will be 0.5% I.e. 1.5 DASH?


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This would be better than just lowering. The constant trade off is between being 'too high' and stifling otherwise good proposals, and being 'too low' and getting lots of spam. We also make it harder to directly process that Many without hiring 'administrator/gatekeepers.' That too presents its own centralizing power problems
 
GoodVibe said:
Proposal fee be changed to 1 Dash sounds very good. As we see, most of us would like that. And then lets keep it for a while.
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This is a stupid solution. What if Dash reaches 1000$ or 10000$?

The only reasonable solution is this:
demo said:
I think the correct thing to do is to reduce the proposal fee to zero, and ONLY IN THE CASE spam occurs, then rise the fee as much as it is required in order for the spam to stop. If the spam stops, then start again slowly reducing the fee until it reaches again zero, or until the spam starts again (in that case the fee will increase again). The rise or the fall of the proposal fee will be decided by a numerical voting among the masternodes (yes vote the numbers once again)
The dynamicaly voted fee is the only correct thing to do. Anything else, and whatever hardcoded number is decided for the fee, it is just wrong and a waste of time (especially a waste of time for the people who are talking or complaining about it).
The developpers should respect the time of the people, and fix this problem once and forever.
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What-if we set it cheaper at 0.1 DASH ? Better ? (it will let mini-projects to get funded on Dash, creating a bigger community)

"The dynamicaly voted fee is the only correct thing to do. Anything else, and whatever hardcoded number is decided for the fee, it is just wrong and a waste of time (especially a waste of time for the people who are talking or complaining about it)."

I'm not sure how it could possibly work, but if dynamic fees is doable maybe it's also good.
We can set a "floor price" at say 0.001 DASH (which will be $1, even if Dash spikes to a $1000)
 
Technologov said:
What-if we set it cheaper at 0.1 DASH ? Better ? (it will let mini-projects to get funded on Dash, creating a bigger community)

"The dynamicaly voted fee is the only correct thing to do. Anything else, and whatever hardcoded number is decided for the fee, it is just wrong and a waste of time (especially a waste of time for the people who are talking or complaining about it)."

I'm not sure how it could possibly work, but if dynamic fees is doable maybe it's also good.
We can set a "floor price" at say 0.001 DASH (which will be $1, even if Dash spikes to a $1000)
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For once I agree with demo (minus the reducing the fee to zero part). It's a waste of time to denominate in Dash because we'll always have to be playing catch-up to the price every time it moves and be forced to revisit this conversation again and again. If it's denominated in USD (based on an average from across various exchanges), we won't, since the Dash amount will automatically adjust to compensate for volatility.
 
You CANNOT denominate this in USD, for the simple reason that the Dash network (the Block-chain) knows nothing about the USD, and neither about the price of Gold.

It can be denominated only in Dash. But dynamic fees may be possible.
 
Is anyone interested in creating a multisig address, and do a fundrasing in order to reach the amount of 5 dash and be able to add a proposal in the governance system for the reduction of the proposal fee?

Lets start a list of the people who are interested in this fundrasing. Whenever the list reaches the 5 dash goal, we are going to vote for the person who we trust he creates the multisig address, and vote the minimum (m) number of signatures required to spend the money. Everyone may gives whatever he/she wants, even a single duff is welcome, and he/she may defines whatever terms or conditions he/she desires in order to give the amount. The only expected is to keep his/her promise.

The list follows (it will be updated accordingly):

1. Myself @demo ( XnpT2YQaYpyh7F9twM6EtDMn1TCDCEEgNX ) : I initially offer 10% of my entire fortune in Dash for this puprose ( 10% of my Dash fortune is currently set to 0.094960331 dash, since the above Dash address is the only non-empty I possess). Until the creation of the multisig address I keep the right to reduce or increase what I offer. But after the multisig address has been created, I hereby declare, on oath, that I will give the declared amount.
 
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I can pay 5 DASH from my own pocket.

But 1 DASH proposal fee are still way too expensive, considering the fact we already were at $120,and I fully expect Dash to break a $1000 barrier by the next year.

Let's make it 0.1 DASH, so final price will be $7 now and $100 later.

Do you agree?
 
Technologov said:
I can pay 5 DASH from my own pocket.

But 1 DASH proposal fee are still way too expensive, considering the fact we already were at $120,and I fully expect Dash to break a $1000 barrier by the next year.

Let's make it 0.1 DASH, so final price will be $7 now and $100 later.

Do you agree?
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Of course I agree. Setting the fee almost to 0 is what I prefer.
 
I don't see why not it can always be voted higher if spam happens. I don't think we should float it against the USD in the end we are attempting to make a universal alternative currency and so everything within dash should be priced in dash.
 
Technologov said:
I registered already. But can't create proposal. "Create Proposal" Button doesn't work
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If you registered, then login.
Then push the create button, and it gives you a string like this.
Code: 
gobject prepare 0 1 1491170805 5b5b2270726f706f73616c222c7b22656e645f65706f6368223a2231343935323233393031222c226e616d65223a2264736164222c227061796d656e745f61646472657373223a22586e7054325951615970796837463974774d364574444d6e31544344434545674e58222c227061796d656e745f616d6f756e74223a2235222c2273746172745f65706f6368223a2231343932363438343231222c2274797065223a312c2275726c223a2268747470733a2f2f7777772e6461736863656e7472616c2e6f72672f702f64736164227d5d5d

You have to put this string to your wallet, there is a menu tab named "console"
You put the string in the console and execute the command, and your wallet gives you an answer, another string.
You cut and paste this string to the dashcentral.org, to the field "Transaction ID:" in order to continue.
 
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