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Universal Dividend and Web of Trust for Dashcoin

Do you like a Universal Dividend and a Web of Trust to be incorporated in Dashcoin?

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demo said:
This is not the community of the Masternode Owners. This is just a hint of what the mansternode owners may vote.

if you are a bolshevik, you see a clear no in this vote result.
But if you are not, you see 195 dash per month.
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than put up a Proposal for a MN vote ?
i am not sure what you are waiting for ?

please keep the politics at bay over here :rolleyes:
 
demo said:
It is meaningless to propose 195 dash for the universal dividend. 195 is a hypothetical number, based in the hypothesis that MOs are similar to the people voted here.

But I would like to make a proposal for allowing the MO to vote with numbers.
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So you would like to make a proposal in order to determine to what extent the masternode owners agree or disagree with voting with numbers, correct?
If that is the case, then I would recommend creating a proposal in a way such that it is in the form of a question, and it is very clear exactly what you mean when you are asking masternodes for a yea or nay on the subject. It will also cost 5 DASH to submit the proposal to the network, so are you willing to fund it?
 
TroyDASH said:
So you would like to make a proposal in order to determine to what extent the masternode owners agree or disagree with voting with numbers, correct?
If that is the case, then I would recommend creating a proposal in a way such that it is in the form of a question, and it is very clear exactly what you mean when you are asking masternodes for a yea or nay on the subject. It will also cost 5 DASH to submit the proposal to the network, so are you willing to fund it?
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Yes . But how can I pay with dash? I have no dash at all.
 
TroyDASH said:
You can try shapeshift.io, probably the easiest way if you want to trade for DASH with Bitcoin
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Thanks for the info. But unfortunately I have no bitcoin either. I have not any cryptocurrency. How can I buy a cryptocurrency, while protecting my anonymity at the same time?
 
demo said:
Thanks for the info. But unfortunately I have no bitcoin either. How can I buy bitcoin , while protecting my anonymity at the same time?
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go to an ATM near u :rolleyes:
 
demo said:
Thanks for the info. But unfortunately I have no bitcoin either. How can I buy bitcoin , while protecting my anonymity at the same time?
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o_O
How are you a crypto enthusiast without any crypto? Got any ether, anything?
The most anonymous way to get bitcoin is at a bitcoin ATM, or using something like localbitcoins.com
 
TroyDASH said:
o_O
How are you a crypto enthusiast without any crypto? Got any ether, anything?
The most anonymous way to get bitcoin is at a bitcoin ATM, or using something like localbitcoins.com
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I am not a crypto enthusiast, I am a universal dividend enthusiast and an anonymity enthusiast .
localbitcoins.com seems nice, but it is not as anonymous as I would like.

Is there a map of cryptocurrency ATMs? Where you can put your cash while masked, and get cryptocurrencies?
 
demo said:
I am not a crypto enthusiast, I am a universal dividend enthusiast and an anonymity enthusiast .

Is there a map of cryptocurrency ATMs? Where you can put cash and get cryptocurrencies?
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Maybe use this? http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-atm-map/
Idk if all bitcoin ATMs take cash, I would assume they do? I've never used one.

Of course you could also buy bitcoin non-anonymously, then trade it for DASH and use PrivateSend in the Dash wallet to mix/anonymize your coins. So there'd be an electronic trail of you buying the bitcoin, but then if you use shapeshift and especially the privatesend in the dash wallet, no one will be able to tell if you still own the dash or what you spent the dash on.
 
Thank you guys for the info. I ll get my masked suit, and I ll try to reach those ATMs.

bye for now.
 
demo said:
Of course not. We can also allocate an amount for the
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Yes, yes, I know... don't feed the ******.

I'm weak... can't resist.

Classic words from a socialist quoted above... 'we can also allocate an amount...'
An industrious person, on the other hand, would say, 'If I am able to do well, I will be able to help others.'

All told, I'll need to check up on my definitions... Not so familiar with 'statism'.
I've always thought fascism to be a merger of corporate powers and state authority, and I do feel we suffer from it's effects today.
As a newbie it is readily apparent everyone holding DASH may vote.
I am free to purchase as much as may be available, if impressed with the prospects.
Of course I may sell if unhappy with some perceived discrepancy.
And these acts may be accomplished with anonymity !

May I pass on the champagne ?
Make mine Stolichnaya, please.

YMMV
rc
 
demo said:
Thank you guys for the info. I ll get my masked suit, and I ll try to reach those ATMs.

bye for now.
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Waiting for the dividend !
 
TroyDASH said:
Getting closer. I think the scammer is still a problem because even if there is no "proposed amount", anyone with a proposal is incentivized to bribe masternode owners to vote 100% on their proposal. Makes for a very strange dynamic where the votes may be more driven by how much is being kicked back to the masternode owners in the short term, than the long term benefit to the network. It also does not solve the problem that in real life there are actual contracts for specific amounts of money. This will result in a glut of underfunded projects.
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There is no problem in that, because if a masternode owner votes 100% for a proposal, then he is forced to vote 0% for all the rest proposals. The scammer may bribe masternode owners to vote 100% on his proposal, but will a MO give this 100%? Of course not, because if a MO gives 100% to a proposal, then he has nothing else left to give to the other proposals.
 
TroyDASH said:
It costs 5 DASH to submit a proposal
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And those 5 dash go back to the budget, right?
So we have 45%(=miners reward)+45%(=masternodes reward)+10%(=budget)
But the budget is not only 10%, it is 10% + an amount arrived from the proposals fee.

Correct?

This 5 dash amount is also a number, it has obviously no theory behind, but can we vote on that number? A vote between 0 and all dash coins of the world makes no sense. So in order for a number to be be able to be voted, we must have at least 2 conditions.

1) For a number to be able to be voted, the number must not have a theory behind. If it has, then we vote yes/no for the theory.
2) For a number to be able to be voted, the number must be both up limited and down limited.

maybe a third condition is also neccessary. I am thinking of it.
 
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demo said:
And those 5 dash go back to the budget, right?

So we have 45%(=miners reward)+45%(=masternodes reward)+10%(=budget)

But the budget is not only 10%, it is 10% + an amount arrived from the proposals fee.

Correct?

This 5 dash amount is also a number, it has obviously no theory behind, but can we vote or that? A vote between 0 and all dash coins makes no sense.
So in order for a number to be be able to be voted, we must have 2 conditions.

1) the number has no theory behind.
2) the number can be up limited and down limited.

maybe a third condition is also neccessary. I am thinking of it.
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@demo

Dude. No one is buying what you are selling.

People are being polite, but they are just humoring you. Everyone is tired of your wacky ideas.

No one agrees with you.

You are turning into a pest.
 
halso said:
@demo

Dude. No one is buying what you are selling.

People are being polite, but they are just humoring you. Everyone is tired of your wacky ideas.

No one agrees with you.

You are turning into a pest.
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You are right. I have to add a poll in this forum, in order to investigate whether the majority of MOs like to vote with numbers. In case the majority of the MOs dont like to be released from statism and from bolshevism, it is meaningless to propose to the budget and thus spend 5 dash for nothing.

Of course voting with numbers is already an option in this poll. But I am the only one who voted it. I think I am going to add a new poll about voting with numbers, because I have a hope (a tiny one) that people didnt observe that alternative option, due to the title of the poll and due to the fact that this alternative option is added recently and not from the begining.

And for historical reasons, lets take a snapshot of the current result.

Do you like a Universal Dividend and a Web of Trust to be incorporated in Dashcoin?
  1. yes for both 1 vote(s) 2.3%
  2. yes for Universal Dividend 0 vote(s) 0.0%
  3. yes for Wev of Trust 1 vote(s) 2.3%
  4. no 39 vote(s) 88.6%
  5. other 2 vote(s) 4.5%
  6. Lets vote with numbers 1 vote(s) 2.3%
and the people who voted "no" are:
TanteStefana Stealth923 elbereth aleix splawik21 Lariondos tungfa yidakee UdjinM6 calnaughtonjnr acidburn crowning Raptor73 JGCMiner raganius AjM MangledBlue oaxaca TaoOfSatoshi bertlebbert HinnomTX bandidorl studioz camosoul Jeztah balu Macrochip kot noobtrader Vedran Yoweri TroyDASH Defacto Comodore amanda_b_johnson Druid chenriquelira Otaci rustycase halso
 
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