camosoul
Well-known member
So, I have this imperfect idea. It's a risk, for sure. But, its as good as we're going to get with what we've got to work with. Chicken or Egg?
I think I should have learned my lesson by now, but... I've been talking to some people. Testing feasibility.
It's do-able.
But I can't overstate the fact that it's a gamble. There are things no crystal ball can see. Some technical details which are un-testable, because no test platform exists for a concept that has never been done before.
It could crash and burn. But: Cats Driving Cars.
Risk-aversion. Some people just don't have the balls to make bold moves. They're comfortable getting easy jobs rubber stamped. If you had easy money rolling in, why would you gamble? But, we've run out of easy jobs that actually accomplish anything. The fearful dancing around the elephant in the room, looking for anything else to do to look busy... Making excuses.
If a baby is born prematurely, do you toss it in a storage box and wait for it to get better on it's own? No. You have to take care of it in it's fragile and unprepared state.
IX was born prematurely, and it's not being cared for, at all. It's implementation at this time is a bit haphazard, and it is a wart on the otherwise backward compatibility of the forked BTC API. Ignoring it is not the solution. It's true. It's not ready. It's not perfect. But it's still there. And it's not flying under the radar. @babygiraffe has the perfect name and forum avatar for this. You don't get to tell the marketplace to wait 2 years until you're ready. It will eat you alive if you don't step up.
We already see several other coins looking at similar implementations, while we've had this one for ~1.5 years and done nothing just because it's imperfect. The fact that DASH has gotten away with ignoring it this long is only a result of so much ponzi, so little brain, in the cryposphere at large. Look at MXR right now. We only wish we could get that sort of market cap, and they're doing it on broken features, no IX, specifically embracing crime, among a long list of other defect that cryptotards are incapable of understanding.
This will only make DASH's job harder than it already is. The crime/immature/ponzi stigma is upon all Crypto.
The only way to prove propaganda a lie, and separate "us" from "them" is action.
If a Cat drives a car and crashes it, it scampers off having learned no lessons from the failure. MNOs are in way over their heads. They're not learning lessons. There's no feedback or consequence for making stupid decisions. Well, there is, but it's beyond their ability to comprehend. Those parties getting a rubber stamp for do-nothing work are looking for increasingly frivolous projects to "look busy" and give the MNOs a placebo of taking action with free money that isn't theirs... This is becoming a hell of a mess, and any effort to describe it is treated like trolling, mean-spirited, anything but facing the truth of the statements.
I'm not afraid to fail. I've failed enough to know that failures are the stepping stones of success. People who have never done anything don't know this, they like to mock. And worse, there are others who might take the leap, but fear the mockery. I do not criticism the Biz Dev team because I hate them and want to hurt people... I do it because this is going nowhere and the MNOs aren't fit to call them out, they don't even see the problem.
I propose: stop dancing around the obvious and jump in. I can't give you a clear-cut path tot he unknown, but I know the time and money wasted on pretending that there is no elephant in the room is far more than it would cost to actually attack that elephant.
I ask, not that we know what a money pit some of these proposals are... That they aren't doing anything at all. I ask for a fraction of what has been wasted. Not even for myself. But as a heat shield in case of crash and burn. To keep people at the helm who can learn from the mistakes, and keep the ball going even when bad shit happens. There WILL be mistakes, because some of this is unknowable. I'm asking you to have my back instead of stab me in it.
I'll say it like I said it last time; I know I'm not the guy for this job. But, in a sea of cowards too afraid to step up, even the wrong man is better than no man. I'm willing to risk ridicule and failure where nobody else is. I'm willing to be the guy you blame. I really do think the community is looking for a scapegoat. We all seem to know that there is one obvious thing that needs to be done, but nobody is willing to sack up and do the hard things, take the risks, and manage the damage when there's a problem. No one who understands the circumstances well enough to actually learn from those failures and keep this going...
Besides, I'm supposed to be on muh bote. I don't wanna make this take any longer than it has to. But it's already taken 8 months and I'm not sure how much money to do absolutely nothing based on the excuse "it's not ready." I can take half as much of your money, kick you in the balls and tell you "it's not ready" and it'd be a damn good deal compared to what you've done so far.
If you want to keep rubber stamping the placebos, go ahead. I'm not telling you to stop. I'm asking you to give me something to work with. Even if it's a waste of money, you've wasted a hell of a lot more than that already... And worse, time. There's nothing you can do to get back the lost time.
Vendors need support. I've not yet met the vendor that set up their own Card Swipe Terminal. Did all the paperwork themselves. Sorted all the red tape. Who's going to do this? You've already funded ongoing money pits for projects that were never a good idea in the first place (lamassu), and are actually counterproductive to the whole point of DASH. If you really believe that creating another layer of red tape issues, another layer of fees, and robbing vendors of any motivation to adopt DASH, will somehow lead to adoption; fine.
I'm not asking you to stop wasting money on all the dumb crap you want. Waste as much as you want. Just give me some scraps to work with so I can show you something else.
I think I should have learned my lesson by now, but... I've been talking to some people. Testing feasibility.
It's do-able.
But I can't overstate the fact that it's a gamble. There are things no crystal ball can see. Some technical details which are un-testable, because no test platform exists for a concept that has never been done before.
It could crash and burn. But: Cats Driving Cars.
Risk-aversion. Some people just don't have the balls to make bold moves. They're comfortable getting easy jobs rubber stamped. If you had easy money rolling in, why would you gamble? But, we've run out of easy jobs that actually accomplish anything. The fearful dancing around the elephant in the room, looking for anything else to do to look busy... Making excuses.
If a baby is born prematurely, do you toss it in a storage box and wait for it to get better on it's own? No. You have to take care of it in it's fragile and unprepared state.
IX was born prematurely, and it's not being cared for, at all. It's implementation at this time is a bit haphazard, and it is a wart on the otherwise backward compatibility of the forked BTC API. Ignoring it is not the solution. It's true. It's not ready. It's not perfect. But it's still there. And it's not flying under the radar. @babygiraffe has the perfect name and forum avatar for this. You don't get to tell the marketplace to wait 2 years until you're ready. It will eat you alive if you don't step up.
We already see several other coins looking at similar implementations, while we've had this one for ~1.5 years and done nothing just because it's imperfect. The fact that DASH has gotten away with ignoring it this long is only a result of so much ponzi, so little brain, in the cryposphere at large. Look at MXR right now. We only wish we could get that sort of market cap, and they're doing it on broken features, no IX, specifically embracing crime, among a long list of other defect that cryptotards are incapable of understanding.
This will only make DASH's job harder than it already is. The crime/immature/ponzi stigma is upon all Crypto.
The only way to prove propaganda a lie, and separate "us" from "them" is action.
If a Cat drives a car and crashes it, it scampers off having learned no lessons from the failure. MNOs are in way over their heads. They're not learning lessons. There's no feedback or consequence for making stupid decisions. Well, there is, but it's beyond their ability to comprehend. Those parties getting a rubber stamp for do-nothing work are looking for increasingly frivolous projects to "look busy" and give the MNOs a placebo of taking action with free money that isn't theirs... This is becoming a hell of a mess, and any effort to describe it is treated like trolling, mean-spirited, anything but facing the truth of the statements.
I'm not afraid to fail. I've failed enough to know that failures are the stepping stones of success. People who have never done anything don't know this, they like to mock. And worse, there are others who might take the leap, but fear the mockery. I do not criticism the Biz Dev team because I hate them and want to hurt people... I do it because this is going nowhere and the MNOs aren't fit to call them out, they don't even see the problem.
I propose: stop dancing around the obvious and jump in. I can't give you a clear-cut path tot he unknown, but I know the time and money wasted on pretending that there is no elephant in the room is far more than it would cost to actually attack that elephant.
I ask, not that we know what a money pit some of these proposals are... That they aren't doing anything at all. I ask for a fraction of what has been wasted. Not even for myself. But as a heat shield in case of crash and burn. To keep people at the helm who can learn from the mistakes, and keep the ball going even when bad shit happens. There WILL be mistakes, because some of this is unknowable. I'm asking you to have my back instead of stab me in it.
I'll say it like I said it last time; I know I'm not the guy for this job. But, in a sea of cowards too afraid to step up, even the wrong man is better than no man. I'm willing to risk ridicule and failure where nobody else is. I'm willing to be the guy you blame. I really do think the community is looking for a scapegoat. We all seem to know that there is one obvious thing that needs to be done, but nobody is willing to sack up and do the hard things, take the risks, and manage the damage when there's a problem. No one who understands the circumstances well enough to actually learn from those failures and keep this going...
Besides, I'm supposed to be on muh bote. I don't wanna make this take any longer than it has to. But it's already taken 8 months and I'm not sure how much money to do absolutely nothing based on the excuse "it's not ready." I can take half as much of your money, kick you in the balls and tell you "it's not ready" and it'd be a damn good deal compared to what you've done so far.
If you want to keep rubber stamping the placebos, go ahead. I'm not telling you to stop. I'm asking you to give me something to work with. Even if it's a waste of money, you've wasted a hell of a lot more than that already... And worse, time. There's nothing you can do to get back the lost time.
Vendors need support. I've not yet met the vendor that set up their own Card Swipe Terminal. Did all the paperwork themselves. Sorted all the red tape. Who's going to do this? You've already funded ongoing money pits for projects that were never a good idea in the first place (lamassu), and are actually counterproductive to the whole point of DASH. If you really believe that creating another layer of red tape issues, another layer of fees, and robbing vendors of any motivation to adopt DASH, will somehow lead to adoption; fine.
I'm not asking you to stop wasting money on all the dumb crap you want. Waste as much as you want. Just give me some scraps to work with so I can show you something else.
