Proposal Assistance - Dash Treasury - Claim of ownership

abob54 said:
Rod, I'm glad that DashCentral.org was able to let you post a description.

For some clarity, you are, of course, the proposal owner. You entered the payment address where funds will be sent. DashTreasury.org does not escrow any funds, it just simplifies the posting process and provided you with a subsidy. It also lent you a hand in getting your proposal onto reddit and linking some relevant pre-proposal discussion, as well as digging up your old Youtube channel to make things easier for the MNOs.

DashTreasury.org is one of several places where proposal owners can post pre-proposals and official proposals. Since its launch less than two months ago, it has received over 20 pre-proposals, with 6 of them converting to "paid" proposal like yours. (Both of the two proposals that are on track to pass this month were posted at DashTreasury.org and received subsidies.)

DashCentral.org is another site like DashTreasury.org. It was developed first, and offers a robust place for discussion. It does not offer proposal subsidies like DashTreasury.org. I believe that @rango, the admin of DashCentral, currently requires the payment receipt of the proposal submission to claim ownership on his site. Perhaps in the future, he will also allow proposal owners to claim ownership on his site by signing their payment address. The process on posting on DashCentral.org is very technically involved, which is why some people prefer to post on DashTreasury.org.

@jimbursch runs another similar site at https://fundchan.com/dashincubator. Jim's site has successfully launched official proposals as well, including Dash's Bug Bounty program which was funded last month. In addition to vetting, I believe that Jim's site focuses on crowdsourcing the funding for the 5 Dash fee.

The public Dash blockchain is the only "official" place that holds proposals. All other sites are "3rd party", labors of love, hobbies, decentralizing sites, whatever you want to call them. All sites that aren't the blockchain itself simply interface with the blockchain and are equally "official" or "unofficial". None of the current sites earn any money for themselves, and all serve the same purpose, which is to improve Dash by giving owners a place to submit proposals, and MNOs a place to discuss and view proposals.
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Hi @abob54 thank you for the clarification, and yes indeed submitting my proposal via Dash Treasury was very simple and easy, for someone like me the does not speaking as a first language it was very useful, I think the only glitch was when I try to claim ownership of the proposal at Dash Central and the address did not match, also someone mention to me I was not the owner off the proposal and that the funds would go that address that did not belong to me, got me really worried, I'm glad all this has been figure it out and I'm very happy my proposal was excepted in a very positive way and all these actually gave me the idea for the future to maybe create a portal in a different language where other international communities will be able to submit proposals in their onw language and then make it easy to display this for the MNO's to to vote.

Also I want to say a big thank you everybody involved in this discussion for giving me the proper and correct information.
 
abob54 said:
Rod, I'm glad that DashCentral.org was able to let you post a description.

For some clarity, you are, of course, the proposal owner. You entered the payment address where funds will be sent. DashTreasury.org does not escrow any funds, it just simplifies the posting process and provided you with a subsidy. It also lent you a hand in getting your proposal onto reddit and linking some relevant pre-proposal discussion, as well as digging up your old Youtube channel to make things easier for the MNOs.

DashTreasury.org is one of several places where proposal owners can post pre-proposals and official proposals. Since its launch less than two months ago, it has received over 20 pre-proposals, with 6 of them converting to "paid" proposal like yours. (Both of the two proposals that are on track to pass this month were posted at DashTreasury.org and received subsidies.)

DashCentral.org is another site like DashTreasury.org. It was developed first, and offers a robust place for discussion. It does not offer proposal subsidies like DashTreasury.org. I believe that @rango, the admin of DashCentral, currently requires the payment receipt of the proposal submission to claim ownership on his site. Perhaps in the future, he will also allow proposal owners to claim ownership on his site by signing their payment address. The process on posting on DashCentral.org is very technically involved, which is why some people prefer to post on DashTreasury.org.

@jimbursch runs another similar site at https://fundchan.com/dashincubator. Jim's site has successfully launched official proposals as well, including Dash's Bug Bounty program which was funded last month. In addition to vetting, I believe that Jim's site focuses on crowdsourcing the funding for the 5 Dash fee.

The public Dash blockchain is the only "official" place that holds proposals. All other sites are "3rd party", labors of love, hobbies, decentralizing sites, whatever you want to call them. All sites that aren't the blockchain itself simply interface with the blockchain and are equally "official" or "unofficial". None of the current sites earn any money for themselves, and all serve the same purpose, which is to improve Dash by giving owners a place to submit proposals, and MNOs a place to discuss and view proposals.
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Hi abob54,

I am having difficulty posting my proposal up using https://proposal.dash.org/. the process cleared its self during the initial wait for confirmations, so I did it again with the same bit of code. When it finished I placed the final code into the wallet and got an error code. My proposal is here https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/...of-dash-by-uk-businesses-and-merchants.15770/ . If, as I fear I have lost the 5 Dash, (happy to provide proof) and I resubmitted my proposal through DashTreasury, would I be likely to get some of my lost 5 Dash back in any way? I am really sad because the three people behind the proposal have worked very hard to get it were it is.

Thanks
 
CaptAhab said:
Hi abob54,

I am having difficulty posting my proposal up using https://proposal.dash.org/. the process cleared its self during the initial wait for confirmations, so I did it again with the same bit of code. When it finished I placed the final code into the wallet and got an error code. My proposal is here https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/...of-dash-by-uk-businesses-and-merchants.15770/ . If, as I fear I have lost the 5 Dash, (happy to provide proof) and I resubmitted my proposal through DashTreasury, would I be likely to get some of my lost 5 Dash back in any way? I am really sad because the three people behind the proposal have worked very hard to get it were it is.

Thanks
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Hi @CaptAhab,

I'm really sorry to hear about your lost 5 Dash proposal fee. You aren't the first person who's had troubles submitting a proposal through the legacy system. Dash.org and DashCentral have great discussions but they don't make the proposal submission process any easier - it remains on those sites a precarious, complicated, and ultimately risky endeavour that probably leads to less proposals being submitted. Even veterans like Amanda B. Johnson have turned up in the Slack channel in fear of having lost her 5 Dash fee.

Your 5 Dash was "burnt". It exists no longer. If there's a way to use what information you have to successfully post from that fee already paid, I don't know it.

My best recommendation to recoop your loss would be to re-submit your proposal, and ask for that 5 Dash fee to be reimbursed (providing full proof of your loss, certainly.) It's still a risk, since your entire proposal would have to pass, but if it did, the first 5 dash fee would come back to you. (You'd ask for 140 Dash now, vs 135 Dash on your last proposal.)

So, yes, you could upgrade your pre-proposal on DashTreasury.org (here it is: https://www.dashtreasury.org/p-1982.prop) You can edit your pre-proposal before upgrading to an official one. You'll enter your own payment address - nothing goes through DashTreasury.

We'll subsidize your new proposal fee by 0.1 Dash, so you'd have to add 4.9 Dash. You'll notice that the process is easier than buying something on Amazon.com. It's how submitting a proposal should be (and hopefully the other submission sites will upgrade their processes accordingly.)

If you need any help at all, just contact us: https://www.dashtreasury.org/contact.html

Best - abob54
 
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Hi @abob54

Thanks for coming back to me. Can I just ask how do you fund Dashtreasury? and what proposals have been submitted through your site?

Best - Captahab
 
CaptAhab said:
Hi @abob54

Thanks for coming back to me. Can I just ask how do you fund Dashtreasury? and what proposals have been submitted through your site?

Best - Captahab
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@CaptAhab - DashTreasury.org is self-funded. It's run by a group of devs and marketers who have worked together in the past, and all happen to be Dash investors who love Dash and wanted to help out in an area of weakness/potential.

Currently active proposals put through on DashTreasury.org:

https://www.dashtreasury.org/p-2968.prop @Rod Ambrissi Brazilian Marketing, Passing 10.53%
https://www.dashtreasury.org/p-2965.prop @Blake Dash Tour, Passing 10.96%
https://www.dashtreasury.org/p-2010.prop Chief Marketing Office Survey, Not Passing -0.88%

Last month proposals:

1st Dash Tour Proposal
Reimbursement of Fees
Tunez's Dash Music Video

Here are the Dash Pre-Proposals that have been submitted.
 
This system gives the Proposal owner the chance to get his Proposal Fee reimbursed, considering some countries Fiat Exchange rates, 5 Dash's is a lot of Money, I mean a Lot.
 
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