Poll: MN Operators, please respond

Should we compel the core team to implement an anonymizing layer (i2p, tor etc)

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I think all masternodes should be anonymized if possible. There is a big issue with normal wallets that are not connected to the anonymization network. In that case, I recommendthe default implementation of Dash wallet should use anonymization network. There are ways to make this really user-friendly. As an example, have a look at http://www.bitsquare.io/. No need to install tor or anything. It just connects you similiar to the tor browser bundle. Very user friendly. (seriously, Dash should hire them to design a wallet for Dash. They make good software).

2) Not all wallets will use anonymity of course. So, there should be public bridges. My belief is that some masternode owners will run their masternode in the anonymity network and also run the public bridge? Why? As we have already seen from the poll results, a certain % of people do not care about anonymity / privacy. Regardless that it strengthens the network from attacks, etc, they don't care. So, those people would be great candidates for running a bridge on the same server they use for the master node (of course reducing their individual anonymity, but they don't care about that anyway). Also, different jurisdictions have different risk factors. When the US declare masternode owners as conspiracists in money laundering and India declare masternodes as nuetral common carriers, well I imagine US owners will want to be anonymous and indian ones won't care as much.

3) I believe masternodes are compensated now with some "uptime" measure which I assume is just pinging their IP address essentially. Naturally, that won't work for anonymity, so the alternative would be pinging their tor hidden service url or whatever

In my view, there is a problem with anonymization and that is latency, reliability, resource constraints of anonymous networks like Tor (and I assume I2P). That is the only real roadblock that I can see. As far as broadcasting transactions it should be more than sufficient. But, if Dash plans to implement global storage among nodes, then it really depends how much will be written / read from this storage. Will it be 100kb/sec, 1mb/sec, 10 mb/sec, or 100mb/sec. My guess is that an anonymouse network could handle the use case of <= 5mb/sec, but would probably not work reliably for 100mb/sec. That is a lot of data though. I am not sure I could see Dash needing to utilizing that much bandwidth per node.
 
After the DDOS, this poll becomes very important.
And of course there is only one solution proposed until now that may solve the problem, and this is mine.

<vote history>
Should we compel the core team to implement an anonymizing layer (i2p, tor etc)
*Yes, all MNs anonymized 24 vote(s) 42.1%
Yes, but MNOs choose IP based or anonymous 16 vote(s) 28.1%
No, all MNs should run on public IPs 17 vote(s) 29.8%
</vote history>
 
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although this poll does not allow people to change their mind, it is interesting to keep the vote history until a new more relevant poll appears.

<vote history> <-- why vote history is usefull?
Should we compel the core team to implement an anonymizing layer (i2p, tor etc)
*Yes, all MNs anonymized 26 vote(s) 44.1%
Yes, but MNOs choose IP based or anonymous 16 vote(s) 27.1%
No, all MNs should run on public IPs 17 vote(s) 28.8%
</vote history>
 
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demo said:
PIVX allows TOR nodes.
http://178.254.23.111/~pub/DN/DN_masternode_payments_stats.html

Current Number of Masternodes: 1945 (unique IPs: 1945, IPv6: 947, TOR: 418)
Click to expand...

See point 5 of the roadmap, "ADAPI (private Tor-routed DAPI implementation for PrivateSend)"
https://github.com/dashpay/dash-roadmap/blob/master/README.md

Looks like there's going to be a major upgrade to PrivateSend.

The big thing missing from all of this is no upgrade to InstantSend i.e. they should make all transactions instant, not an option.
 
<vote history>
Should we compel the core team to implement an anonymizing layer (i2p, tor etc)
*Yes, all MNs anonymized 27 vote(s) 42.2%
Yes, but MNOs choose IP based or anonymous 19 vote(s) 29.7%
No, all MNs should run on public IPs 18 vote(s) 28.1%
</vote history>
 
<vote history>
Should we compel the core team to implement an anonymizing layer (i2p, tor etc)
*Yes, all MNs anonymized 29 vote(s) 43.3%
Yes, but MNOs choose IP based or anonymous 20 vote(s) 29.9%
No, all MNs should run on public IPs 18 vote(s) 26.9%
</vote history>
 
<vote history>
Should we compel the core team to implement an anonymizing layer (i2p, tor etc)
*Yes, all MNs anonymized 29 vote(s) 42.6%
Yes, but MNOs choose IP based or anonymous 20 vote(s) 29.4%
No, all MNs should run on public IPs 19 vote(s) 27.9%
</vote history>

The poll remains. The core team keeps ignoring the result.
Monero is now number 9 in coinmarketcap, and dash is number 12.

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Bitcoin $166.859.043.604 $9.869,09 $9.241.390.000 16.907.237 BTC -7,30%
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Ethereum $73.508.385.872 $749,63 $2.239.000.000 98.059.165 ETH -5,27%
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Ripple $33.586.440.983 $0,859165 $773.374.000 39.091.956.706 XRP * -6,36%
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Bitcoin Cash $18.281.213.181 $1.074,96 $494.930.000 17.006.413 BCH -8,47%
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Litecoin $10.116.284.977 $182,16 $767.775.000 55.536.381 LTC -5,72%
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NEO $6.368.173.500 $97,97 $254.351.000 65.000.000 NEO * -9,37%
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Cardano $6.096.102.460 $0,235125 $213.222.000 25.927.070.538 ADA * -13,63%
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Stellar $5.944.976.039 $0,321900 $68.438.500 18.468.394.032 XLM * -5,96%
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Monero $4.949.064.761 $313,20 $174.318.000 15.801.511 XMR -12,15%
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EOS $4.561.917.257 $6,38 $405.724.000 714.631.932 EOS * -9,85%
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IOTA $4.116.234.191 $1,48 $65.498.500 2.779.530.283 MIOTA * -11,89%
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Dash $4.062.075.039 $512,01 $111.973.000 7.933.632 DASH -8,65%

Top 100 Richest for MONERO
UNKNOWN!

Top 100 Richest DASH
1,134,483 DASH
($581,043,340 USD)
14.30% Total


The governement attacked cryptos, so the market DEMANDS anonymity.

 
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<vote history>
Should we compel the core team to implement an anonymizing layer (i2p, tor etc)
</vote history>

demo said:
The poll remains. The core team keeps ignoring the result.
Monero is now number 9 in coinmarketcap, and dash is number 12.
Click to expand...

The poll remains. The core team keeps ignoring the result.
Monero is now number 29 in coingecko, and dash is number 85.
 
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vazaki3 said:
The poll remains. The core team keeps ignoring the result.
Monero is now number 29 in coingecko, and dash is number 85.
Click to expand...

Marketcap = supply x price
Monero currently has more supply then Dash (18.1 million xmr versus 10,7 million dash)
Since Monero has most of its supply mined by now, its supply will remain static in the formula to calculate marketcap.
Dash on the other hand will continue to have growing supply, which will have more influence on the formula to calculate marketcap every day.

Anyways, marketcap and marketcap rank are pretty useless to compare cryptocurrencies, as coinmarketcap includes tokens, coins, stable coins, exchange coins and DeFi projects. It is much better to look at price performance :

Dash -97.2 % down from ATH price
Bitcoin Cash (Dash main competitor) : -97.1% down from ATH price
A whole bunch of Altcoins more then -90% down from ATH price
Ethereum -74,8% down from ATH price
Monero -76,5% down from ATH price

Monero, Ethereum and DeFi projects were just last to get dumped, but dumped they are now and falling in marketcap rank.
 
<vote history>
Should we compel the core team to implement an anonymizing layer (i2p, tor etc)
</vote history>

vazaki3 said:
The poll remains. The core team keeps ignoring the result.
Monero is now number 29 in coingecko, and dash is number 85.
Click to expand...
The poll remains. The core team keeps ignoring the result.
Monero is now number 26 in coingecko, and dash is number 106.
 
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