Did a new DarkCoin (Not DASH) get announced on BTCtalk?
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elan
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Yes, that's it. I can't see this going anywhere except for creating more confusion.
Dashcoin, Darkcoin, Dash.
They can't steal the DarkCoin name...
We still retain that brand, no?
We still retain that brand, no?
The foundation started the process to trademark Darkcoin a few weeks ago to avoid this kind of things. It will take some time, but there should not be any problem. In the meantime, we have asked the lawyer to work on the defence of the brand. He will be contacting exchanges and other services if they list this coin. They are not gonna have an easy time. However, enforcement in crypto is not easy, so it is not going to be immediate.
TaoOfSatoshi
Well-known member
I like their logo! I think the Dev used to be a Hartford Whalers fan...
Apparently the "dev" doesn't have the attention span to read even a single page. Right in the OP he says:
Yet he links to our re-branding page which says (emphasis mine):
Just to add to this, are we going to trademark Dashcoin as well just to protect the brand from fraudsters like these?
Yet he links to our re-branding page which says (emphasis mine):
(Sorry to preach to the choir!)
Just to add to this, are we going to trademark Dashcoin as well just to protect the brand from fraudsters like these?
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We are not trademarking Dashcoin, we bought that brand to contest another trademarking attempt, not to close that option. Dashcoin as a project already exists. You may agree with them or not, but they are not fraudsters, so no need to protect from their use of the name.
I'm sure the dashcoin devs aren't fraudsters. Just to clarify I was referring to the "new" Darkcoin devs.
I know, but I wanted to make it clear that nobody is attacking the Dashcoin project.
Red-Shinobi
Active member
Looks to me that they are just maintaining a "darkcoin" wallet using the same blockchain as dash.
Evan should have sporked the brand change and waited for consensus like he does with other stuff.
The foundation trying to lawyer their darkcoin project into nonexistance is wack, wont work, and will only make it stronger.
The dark black theme will inevitably be more popular than the blue dash, might as well accept it.
They have the right idea.
Evan should have sporked the brand change and waited for consensus like he does with other stuff.
The foundation trying to lawyer their darkcoin project into nonexistance is wack, wont work, and will only make it stronger.
The dark black theme will inevitably be more popular than the blue dash, might as well accept it.
They have the right idea.
oblox
Well-known member
How do you figure they are using the same blockchain as Dash... this is Fudcoin rebranded last I checked which is a sha256 coin with its own existing blockchain. Further, securing the name as a trademark could mean the foundation could target the exchanges with a C&D order. Without exchanges, the marketplace dries up quickly if you can't buy or sell.
Red-Shinobi
Active member
I was just going off the big text saying "this is a rebrand not a relaunch". Maybe youre, right I didnt look close.
But If the darkcoin foundation attacks another coin, i wont support them anymore. Especially over this, They abondoned their name...so abandon it. Or compete and win. C&D orders??? I hope that fails, just on principal.
This was literally day one obvious repucussions of a knee-jerk half assed brand change if you ask me. OF COURSE this was going to happen. Evan never respected design much, not like his code which he's super carefull not to fork. Well, he made a god-mode decision and now we have design forks.
I think its a good lesson.
Excellent. That's exactly what I was hoping to hear. I'd hate to see somebody, especially a fraud like that piggyback of the coattails of a legitimate crypto.
Are you saying companies do not deserve to retain the brands they started?
http://www.famousnamechanges.net/html/corporate.htm
Looks like a lot of companies need to hire you so you can tell them that.
Red-Shinobi
Active member
Well Dash isnt a company, so your question is moot.
What about Xcoin? they get a pass i guess correct??
Explain why you would try to enforce on Darkcoin and not Xcoin.
Just let the inevitable happen, Theyre goin to use the name and the black theme and theyre going to run with it.
It's a no brainer! go ahead and spend foundation time and resources fighting it.
alex-ru
Well-known member
Please don't kill all copycat's coins now - let them first to grow a bit...
When they will grow enough to make good noise during dying - kill them all - so It will be a good lesson for everybody not to try using (spoiling) Dash (Darkcoin) brand and our reputation ever again.
crowning
Well-known member
Actually attacking/fighting a different coin is the dumbest thing you could do, even when they are copycats:
1: they fail? Learn from it and don't do the same error(s), or fix the ones that killed them in your product.
2: they succeed? Even more to learn
Once they start to copy you the only way is up (if you're willing to learn).
oblox
Well-known member
I'm not entirely sure you can say it was a "knee-jerk half-assed brand change" as it was happening behind the scenes for months. Maybe half-assed in the sense that Evan's slip with the github repo resulted in it spilling early but it is what it is. If the foundation secures the brand then they have every right to enforce that brand in whatever jurisdictions they legally have rights in. It's not rocket science for the exchanges to risk litigation over hosting a marketplace with a coin that infringes a trademark. They wouldn't be "attacking" a coin that is trying to benefit from using a recognized name in crypto.
What would you have proposed for the optimal solution to the brand change? Just a bunch of circle jerking back and forth with no end point (yes we should change it, no we shouldn't, yes, no, yes, no, rah rah rah)--it ultimately needed to be decisively decided. It's done, quit being butthurt about the practical side of how it was resolved.
Make sense, thanks for clearing that up! :grin: