Geert
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After the fork I will sell my Dash for moar Dash Lite (LASH?)
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After the fork I will sell my Dash for moar Dash Lite (LASH?)
Geert
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Andy Freer publicly stated on DashCentral that his goal is to dismantle DCG. See https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/...r-andy-freer-to-withdraw-his-candidacy.51477/
Andy originally said he was coming back to the project to build on top of Dash core. What he's actually doing* is attempting to take control of Dash core. So he's a liar. In my experience, if you let someone lie to you they will eventually steal from you.
* see https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/some-thoughts-on-joels-interview-with-pasta-updated.51611/
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While I love a good fork, everyone does, I think the direction of your shitcoin is wrong and it demonstrates your subordinate and beta characteristics. I think privacy should be a central focus for any DASH fork since that is what DASH has been playing down since the DarkSend rebranding and to its determinant. If you think pandering to the government's AML/KYC/CTF rules is going to win you brownie points, you are fucking retarded - and ignorant. The future is in the Dexes and with trustless wrapping protocols like ren, that allows us to trade our coins on the DeFi Dexes, eg x-Swap, where x = Uni, sushi, pancake, etc etc DASH or a a fork no longer depends on the corrupt CEXes to bring together buyers and sellers. Then we have the rise of Blockchain interoperability with the likes of Thorchain that allow native swaps without even the need for tokenisation which kills CEXes, they are dead and buried. This is the reason that piece of shit Brian ARMSTONG sold his COINbase business, because he can see the writing on the wall and his business is soon to be dead. Of course, you Gerhard have your head stuck so far up your own arse you can't even see the world changing around you so the very best you can come with is this lame ass, beta DASH Lite (LASH) fork out of vengeance over a pig headed egotistical developer you don't like. Cry me a fucking river!
Geert
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We face a host of problems. The MN network will not be able to process Evo requests AND simultaneously IS lock every transaction AND simultaneously mix everyone's coins sixteen rounds. Some hard choices have to be made. And now we have an OG faction hell-bent on challenging DCG's leadership at the very moment we need strong leadership.
Do you see why I'm concerned?
Do you see why I'm concerned?
You sound like some old fart politician trying to scare others about some fake future catastrophe. Don't you have anything more interesting to do? We can talk about hobbies and such like if you want!
Yeah, he is probably wetting the bed over global warming too. We don't have evidence the network can't support all those services and more, in fact from what I can see, the network is scaling really well and we will be testing it again once v0.17 fully forks in so stay tuned!
Geert
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Here is how I see things:
InstantSend: Can't scale. Dead end.
CoinJoin: Seven years ago this seemed like a good idea.
So there you have it. Dash's two foundational innovations need to be thrown away at some point. I didn't lose any sleep over this before because I stupidly thought that the devs here report to the CTO and ultimately RT. My fear is that the devs will just keep coding and coding without any understanding of what the marketplace is demanding or even what's technically possible.
InstantSend: Can't scale. Dead end.
CoinJoin: Seven years ago this seemed like a good idea.
So there you have it. Dash's two foundational innovations need to be thrown away at some point. I didn't lose any sleep over this before because I stupidly thought that the devs here report to the CTO and ultimately RT. My fear is that the devs will just keep coding and coding without any understanding of what the marketplace is demanding or even what's technically possible.
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InstantSend can scale, watch this space we will do a flood test in 1 or 2 months time to show real-world results. CoinJoin (privacy) is only going to be more important as people start to see how draconian their governments are. We are seeing new coins pop up with privacy as a primary goal and they are proving popular. I and others would like to see DASH focus more on privacy and it won't go away because it scares the likes of you.
Geert
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When RT implemented auto IS I considered it a brilliant mistake. Of course it makes sense from a UX standpoint and IS is better than no IS so why not turn it on all the time? The reason it was brilliant is because it allowed the engineers to see how LLMQs behave under heavy load and this led to the optimized "enhanced IS" we have now. The reason it was a mistake is because at some point we will have to turn if off.
No. The people will never start to see anything until it's too late.
No. The people will never start to see anything until it's too late.
Sorry My Lord, why would they have to turn it off? If it's not working the fallback state is Nakamoto consensus.
Geert
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The software is not smart enough at this time to stop attempting to lock transactions when there are too many per second. The result is that the network stops generating chainlocks.
vazaki3
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could you point to a network test that proves your claims?
You don't know this, this will be tested in flood test coming up, for now you are fudding because the last stress test we did had no chainlock failures, that's what the
"SPORK_21_QUORUM_ALL_CONNECTED": true, addressed.
Geert
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I personally watched the network become inoperable and chainlocks repeatedly fail during the original monster spam attack. Yes, the engineers have implemented an optimization that makes IS locking more efficient, and that is a good thing, but IMHO this will not alter how the network behaves when it is overwhelmed with transactions.
BTW, who are you referring to when you say that "we" did a stress test?
Gerhard, I do think your aim is to be as disagreeable as possible, you do understand how software works don't you? it improves over time as issues are found and resolved later.
In this case 'we' is me. I did it and will do it again under the watchful eye of a DCG member to collect stats and whatnot. What have you done for the network lately?
Geert
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If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking. -- George S. Patton
It's possible for a project like this to run out of "laters."
What would you like? I could make YouTube videos with 300 views like Joel. I could plaster the Internet with childish memes like Mark Mason. Or maybe I could start a Discord like yourself and be a censor.
Well everything you just said only proves my point, it's not worth even trying to have an honest discussion with you.
vazaki3
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In the meantime, I am here to help you.
I could compile the dash code, and remove some functionalities from it (it is easy to destroy, difficult to built.).
For a crypto to exist, it needs at least one server.
Where is the server where the development of this new dash fork occurs?
Of course one server is unstable, better having two servers.
So where is the server(s), and the developer(s) of your fork?
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qwizzie
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This thread reminds me of something, something funny .. now if i could just remember what it reminds me of.
Oh wait, i remember now :
Source : https://www.amazon.com/Fine-Art-Delusional-Thinking-ebook/dp/B00FI24OSO
Please keep that delusional thinking of trying to hard fork Dash without important features like its decentralized treasury (bye bye funding for developers), its decentralized governance (bye bye quick and decisive decision-forming proces) and its optional privacy on transactions (bye bye people interested in privacy).
At least at some level it is becoming entertaining to watch now.
Oh wait, i remember now :
Source : https://www.amazon.com/Fine-Art-Delusional-Thinking-ebook/dp/B00FI24OSO
Please keep that delusional thinking of trying to hard fork Dash without important features like its decentralized treasury (bye bye funding for developers), its decentralized governance (bye bye quick and decisive decision-forming proces) and its optional privacy on transactions (bye bye people interested in privacy).
At least at some level it is becoming entertaining to watch now.
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Geert
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I'm not the one who is delusional.
The DAO elected three community members to the trust who's goal is to dismantle DCG (the main asset of the trust!). The DAO approved a developer slush fund that will undermine DCG's control of core dev. IMHO the project is dying, and there is no one to blame but the DAO. Look at the masternode count. We're losing masternodes and the price of Dash is at 1/10 ATH.
So what do we do in such a situation? You tell me. You think everything is hunky dory? YOU are the one who's delusional.
The DAO elected three community members to the trust who's goal is to dismantle DCG (the main asset of the trust!). The DAO approved a developer slush fund that will undermine DCG's control of core dev. IMHO the project is dying, and there is no one to blame but the DAO. Look at the masternode count. We're losing masternodes and the price of Dash is at 1/10 ATH.
So what do we do in such a situation? You tell me. You think everything is hunky dory? YOU are the one who's delusional.
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