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I was not here 6 years ago. This is not a proper discussion. You haven't tried to convince me otherwise, you haven't pointed out to any legal binding i have, you directly threatened to fire me of a mention of a simple thing. This is a bit too far i think, i will ask you to not do that again...

Oh i had misunderstood you then. My bad. Are you refuting my statement that PoSe is on the research/design roadmap? It is as this small screen shows. I think i know better than anyone else what is in there as i'm the one who made it. At the start of the year I went to QE and pressed him...

Oh, and i focus on the storage cause you spoke of price initially unless i got confused and the price is mainly driven by data duplication basically, from my understanding.

for PoSe: Making nodes behave well is not the centerpoint of this idea of HPMN. It is one sub-issue. It would take too much time for a release candidate for Platform, it would imply unnaceptable delay. Don't quote me on it, last time i talked of it was maybe a year or so ago. but from memory...

If you store the database you store all of it, there is no storing a part of it. Either you store all of it, either you store nothing. You could store a part with sharding but the issue is that sharding takes an immense amount of ressources to implement and get right if you look at other...

i have not stated anything about the height of the price, merely that higher duplication means a higher price, which you, i am sure, agree with. I do see thought that you want me to give you numbers about the cost of data depending on the size and lifetime of it and where we put the higher...

I am unsure on how it helps with immoral content but as long as your own view is clear, it's what count. Distributed storage is indeed a play between two opposed parameters: duplication and price. The higher the duplication, the higher the price. Then there is the issues of performance...

What sam means is that if you put collaterals at 1k, whatever the allocation you put on platform, you end up with all the nodes supporting it, there is an "equilibrium" but it is attained at a value that makes it pointless to have separated nodes in the first place, you might as well just say...

I am not talking about computation but storage. The issue is that nodes have to store the data, not the computation it takes. Everyone has to store the database, and this is duplication, the only way around it is sharding and so.

Yeah i think we all agree on that. We thrive to be better. I have a call begining in a few minutes, so i will answer in 2 or so hours.

the best interest of the network is for everything to go well, those three solutions try to do that. Sadly if you ask me there is no best solution, because things were promised initially by persons like evan duffield who are not in the project anymore and do not have to deal with down to earth...

You said "Stop thinking with just your logical part of the brain", so this tongue in cheek answer was in answer to that. I apologize if it came off as insulting. I am glad to see that we agree though.

I am glad we agree on my priorities. I'm answering here so that QE can concentrate on proper tasks. I'll answer this one message then get back to it. (I do not code though, I do the more theoritical parts. Maybe you confused me with one of the devs?) We all have a say in it of course. I...

another quick answer, i have not followed that actively, but i think there is a whale/exchange which has lagged behind on the last big update, maybe it is related?

I'm currently trying to work on something else, so i will wait to have more time to answer the real questions with proper look at numbers. But such an ad hominem though, i can't let it there for long without answering, you are forcing my hand. It's cutting my work midway and reduces efficency by...

Ah yes indeed. My bad.

Cool, i hope you have a better view of why we are polling. To us, it seems that HPM seem like the lesser evil, but we know it has drawbacks and that the community must ultimately have the say on what is going on. Not black and white :b I have a document i need to work on, i'll get back to check...

No dev voted for all nodes "run platform". So yes, all the votes were for HPM's.

And yes, as QE states, this decision is a release decision, we can change it later on.

4K nodes won by 3 votes, then " HPMN 4k or 10k (doesn’t matter)" is second. Then all the other options had the same number of votes.