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  1. Pietro Speroni

    Pre-Proposal: Dash to fund the book "Design for an e-Democracy"

    downvoted it 400 times? Holy shit. That's a massive cluster of masternodes they have in PIVX. And I thought it was more distributed than DASH. I would say after this that PIVX is definitely not the place where we are going to see true distributed governance appear. No big deal, let's concentrate...
  2. Pietro Speroni

    Pre-Proposal: Dash to fund the book "Design for an e-Democracy"

    Dear @demo thanks for the proposal. I am flattered, again. Please don't spend 5 precious dash to make a proposal for me. If the dash core or the dash programmer want me to collaborate with them I am available. They can also add a voice in the budget for me, if they think my contribution is...
  3. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    there is definitely no need to enforce anything. Set up a poll among your friends asking according to them how much the politicians should be paid. You can do it on google doc, and then advertise it on facebook. And you set it up in a way that who votes cannot read the votes of others. And then...
  4. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    I must apologise to @demo as the result ended up being nowhere as trivial as I was expecting. And I am also grateful for what I discovered. I just run the experiment. 4000 nodes, with random values, with normal (gaussian) distribution of float, taking away 100 of them one by one. And...
  5. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    No, @TroyDASH is right. It is upon you the weight of the proof, as I already presented the evidence before in the graph. Denying what someone else has said, and then asking from him to write you a computer program is trolling. Beside I have already showed you the graph. Just go backward in...
  6. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    Sorry, but no. Make some computer models and you'll see you are wrong. Demo, I am sorry, but I don't want a governance by extremists that balance each other. I also need to say that your idea of governance is worrying at this point.
  7. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    Thanks @GrandMasterDash . I am flattered. I think it would not be very useful for me to participate right now. I would sit in the audience at maximum being able to ask a question. There is no particular question I wish to ask right now. If they want me to participate in some direct way, and...
  8. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    The mean is NOT more stable. Look at how the median and the mean moved in this experiment among my friends (asking them how much MP should be paid). It takes only one person to move the mean of as much as he wants. Yes, if 51% of the voters are wrong the result is wrong. But what form of voting...
  9. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    Ok, so you are saying that not all nodes can see all masternodes. And as such they will feel the result at which the rest of the network has arrives is bogus. Interesting. How come this does not happen when the normal proof of work happens, and one node presents a number of transactions and...
  10. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    Thanks for the offer. It's not my call. I will help him, but let him decide the structure. But if I ever make a different altcoin, only focused on governance, I will let you know.
  11. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    I probably need to understand better the structure of the actual governance in Dash. Someone above said they voted no to this proposal because they only trust Evan and the core team to take this kind of decision. If this is the case maybe they need a mathematician among them. Also the coders...
  12. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    Hi @UdjinM6, nice of you to comment. Of course the subtleties of voting in a distributed network makes all this harder. I have to admit I did not consider this. But is it really necessary to wait a business cycle? Can't we try to update this on every block, and update this every blocktime (1m...
  13. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    I understood you were trusting Evan and the core team.Now I am confused, are you saying that the 5 dash fee is legitimate because the majority of people would prefer 5 dash than any other value? Because if this is the reason, let me assure you that thanks to the theorem of Duncan Black, the...
  14. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    it says it has a governance with limited sovereignty.
  15. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    Thank you, I think you have explained yourself perfectly. Now I understand. We indeed have a very different vision. You trust the main programmer, I (and apparently some others) look for a decentralised non hierarchical system. I believe the two visions are mutually incompatible. Your system has...
  16. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    Hello, I designed as a consultant the participatory budgeting for some of Italian towns (Italian link). But at the time we did not vote with numbers. I was not aware of the theorem of the median and I did not trust the average for the reasons explained above. Instead last year I was invited to a...
  17. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    @demo the steps are the people with multiple masternodes. But why does the graph not start at 0 votes yes and 0 votes no? Can we get the complete graph? @jimbursch the idea is presented well enough. It is much more clear than a lot of other ideas presented. Honestly I cannot imagine 160 people...
  18. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    I am sorry, working in eDem for several years made me bitter and resentful of process where people are allowed to vote on the scope of their own power. Not one time I have seen it go well. Now I am starting to think that there should be a cast where people either decide how the governance should...
  19. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: Adaptive Proposal Fees

    I am flabbergasted that this proposal isn't passing with unanimity. And so far I could not hear a single comment of a person presenting a good case why it should not be applied. Not even your reason, @demo of the fact that this silence minorities. The only way not to silence minorities it to use...
  20. Pietro Speroni

    Proposal: open-source DASH gateway on Ripple

    Sounds like a really interesting proposal. I voted yes. But also for me I am not knowledgeable enough to know if there is any problem. So if there is no problem arising I will absolutely support it.
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